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= Bus measurement =
= Medición de los buses =
The points that must be taken into account for the checks are the following:
Los puntos que se deben tener en cuenta para las comprobaciones son las siguientes:
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* [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/CheckWiring#Polarities Polarities]
* [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/CheckWiring#Polaridades Polaridades]
* [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/CheckWiring#Mallas Mesh]
* [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/CheckWiring#Mallas Mallas]
* [https://wiki.kiconex.com/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/CheckWiring#Voltage Voltage]
* [https://wiki.kiconex.com/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/CheckWiring#Voltaje Voltaje]
* [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/CheckWiring#Continuity Continuity]
* [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/CheckWiring#Continuidad Continuidad]
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== Polarities ==
== Polarities ==
The polarities are those strictly used in the [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/Modbus-protocol#Modbus_protocol '''modbus_protocol'''] RTU using the Daisy-chain typology described in the [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/ModbusRTU-RS485#Wiring_Requirements '''wiring_requirements'''].
[[Archivo:Cableado tierras v2024.jpg|centro|miniaturadeimagen|800x800px|Schematic of a single bus following the daisy-chain topology]]


The polarities are those strictly used in the [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/Modbus-protocol#Protocolo_Modbus '''modbus protocol'''] RTU using the Daisy-chain typology described in the [https://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/ModbusRTU-RS485#Requisitos_de_cableado '''wiring requirements'''].
* '''Common:''' if there is a connection for a common cable, a cable will come out of the terminal block (or kibox) that will go from the common to the common of the first control. It is connected to the common and from there a splice comes out to the next control. The operation must be repeated as many controls are going to be connected together in the same port. The common will 'die' in the last control of the series.
[[File:SP - Esquema de un bus único siguiendo la topología daysi change.jpg|center|imagethumbnail|800x800px|Scheme of a single bus following the daisy-chain topology]]
* '''+ positive:''' from the terminal block (or kibox, depending on whether there is a kiconex electrical panel) a cable will come out that will go from the positive to the positive of the first control. It is connected to the positive and from there a splice comes out to the next control. The operation must be repeated as many controls are going to be connected together in the same port. The common will 'die' in the last control of the series.
* '''- negative:''' from the terminal block (or kibox, depending on whether there is a kiconex electrical panel) a cable will come out that will go from the negative to the negative of the first control. It is connected to the negative and from there a splice is made to the next control. The operation must be repeated as many controls are going to be connected together in the same port. The common will 'die' in the last control of the series.
* '''GND ground without kiconex electrical panel:''' the mesh (the covering of the shielded cable) will be connected to the ground of the installation. Between the controls connected in series, the mesh must be spliced ​​together. It will 'die' in the last control.
* '''GND ground with kiconex electrical panel:''' from the GND terminal block the mesh of the shielded cable is connected. The other end must be connected to the mesh of the shielded cable of the next control connected in series. The mesh will 'die' in the last control.


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They must be connected to each other using the terminal block of the kiconex panel or the kiBox as the start or end of the line, never connecting to the machines or monitored equipment. If the mesh is connected to a machine, the voltage it may have may end up being induced in the communication bus, creating noise and conflicts in it, including the breakage of one or more ports of the kiBox.
Deben estar conectadas entre sí utilizando el bornero del cuadro de kiconex o del kiBox como inicio o final de línea, nunca conectándose a las máquinas o equipos monitorizados, si la malla se conecta a una máquina la tensión que ésta pueda tener puede terminar siendo inducida en el bus de comunicación creando ruido y conflictos en él, incluido la rotura de uno o más puertos del kiBox.
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== Voltaje ==
== Voltage ==
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Voltages in alternating current and direct current must be measured with the help of a multimeter.
Se debe medir tensiones en corriente alterna y corriente continua con ayuda de un multímetro.
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The measurements must be made directly on the bus, so the entire bus (positive, negative and mesh) must be '''DICONNECTED''' ''obligatory'' from the terminal block or from the kiBox if it does not have a panel.
Las mediciones se deben realizar directamente en el bus por lo que se debe '''DESCONECTAR''' ''obligatoriamente'' el bus completo (positivo, negativo y malla) del bornero o del kiBox en caso de no tener cuadro.
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It must be measured between positive-negative, positive-mesh and negative-mesh, both alternating and continuous.  
Se debe medir entre positivo-negativo, positivo-malla y negativo-malla, tanto en alterna como en continua.
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'''MUST NOT HAVE ANY ALTERNATE VOLTAGE.'''  
'''NO DEBE TENER TENSIÓN ALGUNA EN ALTERNA.'''
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In '''continuous''' it can possibly have up to 1 Vdc due to the communication flow.
En '''continua''' puede tener posiblemente hasta 1 Vcc debido al flujo de comunicación.
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If you have alternating current, you must identify the equipment that is inducing this voltage on the bus and check the wiring to ensure that it is in optimal condition.
En caso de tener corriente alterna se debe identificar el equipo que está induciendo esta tensión en el bus y revisar el cableado que esté en condiciones óptimas.
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The following table may make it easier to collect measurement data:
La siguiente tabla puede facilitar la recopilación de datos sobre las mediciones:
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[[Archivo:SP Medición de tensión en los buses. rev 2.jpg|centro|miniaturadeimagen|707x707px|RS485 Bus Check Value Measurement Table]]
[[Archivo:SP Medición de tensión en los buses. rev 2.jpg|centro|miniaturadeimagen|707x707px|Tabla de medición de valores de la comprobación del bus RS485]]
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== Continuity ==
== Continuidad ==
Continuity must be measured between positive-negative, positive-mesh and negative-mesh, this being '''INEXISTENT'''.
Se debe medir continuidad entre positivo-negativo, positivo-malla y negativo-malla, siendo esta '''INEXISTENTE'''.
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If there is continuity, the contact that is causing this continuity must be identified and the incident corrected.
En caso de tener continuidad, se debe identificar el contacto que está provocando esta continuidad y subsanar la incidencia.
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== To take into account ==
== A tener en cuenta ==
The communication bus must be away from the power wiring as this can produce noise, the connections within your monitored equipment must also be taken into account.
El bus de comunicación debe estar alejado del cableado de fuerza ya que esto puede producir ruido, se debe tener en cuenta también las conexiones dentro de su equipo monitorizado.
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The bus with '''NO''' voltage must be connected to the terminal block of the panel or to the kiBox, this action may lead to failure of the kiBox. If a replacement is made, the buses must be checked before connecting them.
El bus con tensión '''NO''' se debe conectar al bornero del cuadro o al kiBox, esta acción puede derivar en avería del kiBox. En caso de que se realice una sustitución se deben comprobar los buses antes de conectarlos.
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Once the buses have been cleaned and the problematic machines have been isolated, you will have a correct visualization of the readings of the equipment monitored on the platform.
Una vez saneados los buses y aisladas las máquinas problemáticas tendrá una visualización correcta de las lecturas de los equipos monitorizados sobre la plataforma.
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== Summary of the previous installation checks. ==
== Resumen de las comprobaciones previas de la instalación. ==
[[File:SP - Comprobaciones en instalación 1ra pag.jpg|center|imagethumbnail|990x990px|Installation checks 1-2]]
[[Archivo:SP - Comprobaciones en instalación 1ra pag.jpg|centro|miniaturadeimagen|990x990px|Comprobaciones en instalación 1-2]]
[[File:SP - Comprobaciones en instalación 2da pag.jpg|center|imagethumbnail|990x990px|Installation checks 2-2]]
[[Archivo:SP - Comprobaciones en instalación 2da pag.jpg|centro|miniaturadeimagen|990x990px|Comprobaciones en instalación 2-2]]
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Revisión actual - 12:45 27 ago 2024

Checking the RTU-RS485 modbus wiring

Modbus RTU-RS485 wiring should be checked after start-up of the facility and when starting to visualize communication problems on the platform.

You can consult how to make the Modbus RTU-RS485 Connection by clicking on the {SERVERNAME}}/index.php/Special:MyLanguage/ModbusRTU-RS485 link.

If there are errors, with the help of the graphs, you can have a first visualization of these errors. It is possible that only points are displayed, intermittent cuts, false connections in the control (the control appears as connected even though it is not recording data), intermittent disconnections of the controls on the platform, loss of readings on one bus or several, among others.

Below are some graphs where these intermittent communication failures are identified.

Example of visualization of communication failures shown in points
Example of visualization of communication failures shown in points
Communication failure display example shown with cuts.
Communication failure display example shown with cuts.
Example of display of bus communication failure with disconnections/connections
Example of display of bus communication failure with disconnections/connections

Bus measurement

The points that must be taken into account for the checks are the following:

Polarities

The polarities are those strictly used in the modbus_protocol RTU using the Daisy-chain typology described in the wiring_requirements.

Schematic of a single bus following the daisy-chain topology
  • Common: if there is a connection for a common cable, a cable will come out of the terminal block (or kibox) that will go from the common to the common of the first control. It is connected to the common and from there a splice comes out to the next control. The operation must be repeated as many controls are going to be connected together in the same port. The common will 'die' in the last control of the series.
  • + positive: from the terminal block (or kibox, depending on whether there is a kiconex electrical panel) a cable will come out that will go from the positive to the positive of the first control. It is connected to the positive and from there a splice comes out to the next control. The operation must be repeated as many controls are going to be connected together in the same port. The common will 'die' in the last control of the series.
  • - negative: from the terminal block (or kibox, depending on whether there is a kiconex electrical panel) a cable will come out that will go from the negative to the negative of the first control. It is connected to the negative and from there a splice is made to the next control. The operation must be repeated as many controls are going to be connected together in the same port. The common will 'die' in the last control of the series.
  • GND ground without kiconex electrical panel: the mesh (the covering of the shielded cable) will be connected to the ground of the installation. Between the controls connected in series, the mesh must be spliced ​​together. It will 'die' in the last control.
  • GND ground with kiconex electrical panel: from the GND terminal block the mesh of the shielded cable is connected. The other end must be connected to the mesh of the shielded cable of the next control connected in series. The mesh will 'die' in the last control.

They must be connected to each other using the terminal block of the kiconex panel or the kiBox as the start or end of the line, never connecting to the machines or monitored equipment. If the mesh is connected to a machine, the voltage it may have may end up being induced in the communication bus, creating noise and conflicts in it, including the breakage of one or more ports of the kiBox.

Voltage

Voltages in alternating current and direct current must be measured with the help of a multimeter.

The measurements must be made directly on the bus, so the entire bus (positive, negative and mesh) must be DICONNECTED obligatory from the terminal block or from the kiBox if it does not have a panel.

It must be measured between positive-negative, positive-mesh and negative-mesh, both alternating and continuous.

MUST NOT HAVE ANY ALTERNATE VOLTAGE.

In continuous it can possibly have up to 1 Vdc due to the communication flow.

If you have alternating current, you must identify the equipment that is inducing this voltage on the bus and check the wiring to ensure that it is in optimal condition.

The following table may make it easier to collect measurement data:

RS485 Bus Check Value Measurement Table

Continuity

Continuity must be measured between positive-negative, positive-mesh and negative-mesh, this being INEXISTENT.

If there is continuity, the contact that is causing this continuity must be identified and the incident corrected.

To take into account

The communication bus must be away from the power wiring as this can produce noise, the connections within your monitored equipment must also be taken into account.

The bus with NO voltage must be connected to the terminal block of the panel or to the kiBox, this action may lead to failure of the kiBox. If a replacement is made, the buses must be checked before connecting them.

Once the buses have been cleaned and the problematic machines have been isolated, you will have a correct visualization of the readings of the equipment monitored on the platform.

Summary of the previous installation checks.

Installation checks 1-2
Installation checks 1-2
Installation checks 2-2
Installation checks 2-2